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Title: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 13, 2018, 06:25:29 am
After using the pen tool in AD how do you make it into a selection?
Thanks Jimmy
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Teejay on February 13, 2018, 07:37:38 am
erm....  do you mean you want your line you have drawn  to be a shape...
if so
draw your line then go to the Layer menu along the top of AD
and from the dropdown list choose
'expand stroke'    that should turn your line into a shape  :jumper:
if this is not what you meant
explain the line to selection a bit more please.... :look:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 13, 2018, 08:51:47 am
Thanks for your quick reply. See my fairy hair marked with pen tool. I want to make this into a selection you know with the marching ants. So I can fill move ect. 
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Majse on February 13, 2018, 08:55:58 am
I would like the answer to that - if it can be done  :stars:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 13, 2018, 08:58:15 am
Sorry another question when using the pen tool to follow a line some dots are round some squaire why? Thanks
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 13, 2018, 09:09:18 am
I would like the answer to that - if it can be done  :stars:
:praise18:  :yes01: it can be done but how  :whoo:
No answer is to stupid for a daft question  :laugh1:   :stars:  :jumper:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Majse on February 13, 2018, 09:15:12 am
Ha ha  :laugh1: :laugh1:

Jimmy - the nodes. I looked it up some time ago but my English isn't good enough and I am not sure I understood myself

If you - in AD - click Help - Choose Help - Drawing curves and shapes - About Curves and shapes

You can read about the nodes there. I hope you know what I mean
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 13, 2018, 09:30:40 am
Sorry another question when using the pen tool to follow a line some dots are round some squaire why? Thanks

Here is what I'm trying to achieve AP on menu is a button !Selection"  :yes01: 
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Teejay on February 13, 2018, 11:42:15 am
there is a selection brush but WHY do you want it
if your hair is one line and joined just fill the shape with a colour via the colour panel  make sure you have the fill selected
and use the move tool if you want to move your shape 

if you don't want to do this and you are set on the manky selection tool...hmphhhhhhh

go to the pixel persona and choose the 7th tool down
its the first brush you come to ...
if you make a selection remember to add a new layer or else  you will raster your vector layer...
do it and you will see  then you will add a layer lol

the reason for the different nodes is to show the different sort of 'bends' you get at the node

sharp, smart and smooth.    ta daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... :stars:

Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 13, 2018, 12:35:09 pm
I would like the answer to that - if it can be done  :stars:
Hi Majse Your English is better than my Danash I love Danish beer and cheese  :praise70:
Just found out What I am trying to do can be done in Affinity Photo. Cant find how to do this in Affinity Designer the workaround for me is to open the AD fie in AP. However must be away to do this in AD
All the Best from Glasgow UK>   
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Teejay on February 13, 2018, 12:55:15 pm
there is and its in the pixel persona...hello hello am I here  :look: ....is anyone there ....    :whoo: am I alone...... hello hellooo  can anyone find me please.   :stars: :jumper: :yes03:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 13, 2018, 03:39:52 pm
there is a selection brush but WHY do you want it
if your hair is one line and joined just fill the shape with a colour via the colour panel  make sure you have the fill selected
and use the move tool if you want to move your shape 

if you don't want to do this and you are set on the manky selection tool...hmphhhhhhh

go to the pixel persona and choose the 7th tool down
its the first brush you come to ...
if you make a selection remember to add a new layer or else  you will raster your vector layer...
do it and you will see  then you will add a layer lol
The Manky selection tool keeps the fill inside the boundary

the reason for the different nodes is to show the different sort of 'bends' you get at the node

sharp, smart and smooth.    ta daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... :stars:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Teejay on February 14, 2018, 01:33:13 am
yes I get the paint only inside but why don't you want to fill it....
but never mind you know what you want and you have found it
did you also find the selection tool in your Pixel persona side of AD
and good for you for finding it in AP.
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Majse on February 14, 2018, 02:36:14 am
Danish beer and cheese - Yup  :laugh1:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Majse on February 14, 2018, 02:37:10 am
Thanks Teejay  :jumper:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 14, 2018, 03:16:51 am
there is and its in the pixel persona...hello hello am I here  :look: ....is anyone there ....    :whoo: am I alone...... hello hellooo  can anyone find me please.   :stars: :jumper: :yes03:

Sorry my hearing aids were turned off  :stars:
Manky AP selection keeps the fill inside its boundary 
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 14, 2018, 03:37:38 am
yes I get the paint only inside but why don't you want to fill it....
but never mind you know what you want and you have found it
did you also find the selection tool in your Pixel persona side of AD
and good for you for finding it in AP.

 :praise45: Teejay You have hit the nail on the head  :praise50: Now why did I not think of that  :snagme: Off for some Danish beer and cheese Thank you everyone nice cheery place this. Any coffee brewing?
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Teejay on February 14, 2018, 04:26:41 am
mmmmmmm there are better ways of keeping your paintstroke in the shape

do you know about clipping...   or nesting
if you do .
you can paint on a layer and clip the painted layer to your shape.
if you have a big ? over your head let me know its easy and essential to good vector work.

this is the effect you get from clipping
there is a lot more to clipping.... many things can be done with this simple but awesome ability.

Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 14, 2018, 06:08:19 am
 :praise58: I know about clipping just never thought about using like that  :praise09:   
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Lin on February 14, 2018, 08:31:25 am
 :look: just wrote that.. posted and then saw TeeJay beat me to it..  :laugh1:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: MaryLou on February 14, 2018, 04:35:48 pm
Jimmy, I'm not sure I'm understanding your question.  Do you simply want to fill the hair with a color?  If so, all you need to do is go to the colors (0r swatches) and pick a color.   That's what I did in the image below.  Selected the pen tool, clicked around the image, turned on the color and filled it with red.     Just curious, why so many little nodes?  The fewer the nodes, the smoother the lines.

(http://wwell.net/temp/hair.png)
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 14, 2018, 11:05:48 pm
MaryLou  :praise20:  :yes01:  :stars: Thank you this is the help I was looking for. I'm learning AD
Thank you
Jimmy
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 15, 2018, 02:26:53 am
Now what have I wrong? :laugh1: How do I fix?  :woof:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: MaryLou on February 15, 2018, 02:31:37 pm
Jimmy, you have a hole in the bucket and the paint keeps running out!  In other words, you don't have a closed curve.  The beginning and the end do not connect.  However, there are a number of solutions to that.

You could just draw a circle, then clip it to the hair. The problem with that would be if you changed colors... you'd have to change the circle too.

You could draw a shape that's similar to the "hole", then use the Add function to add the two pieces together. This would let you change colors.

You could just connect the beginning to the end but that might not work on this particular image.

You could draw the hair as one object, then draw the bun as another and add them together.

These are only some of the solutions.  I like the last one best.

Would like to make some suggestions for creating artwork with nodes.  The fewer nodes, the smoother the image.  Look at the image below.  On the top part, I just clicked a bunch of straight lines at points where the shape changes.  On the second part, I used the node tool to drag the curves into place.

(http://wwell.net/temp/hair2.png)

Give this a try to see how easy it is: 

Use the pen tool to draw a line with a node in the beginning, one in the center, and one at the end.
Change to the Node tool.  Hover the node tool over the center of the line on the left side until you see a little tilde under the node tool.  Holding down the mouse button, drag the line upward.  It should form a nice curve. ( see image below).  Repeat for the right side but drag the line downward.

(http://wwell.net/temp/nodes.png)

This is exactly  how I made the hair on my example.  I did have to adjust one or two node handles but that was no big deal.  You can see how smooth the lines come out when using fewer nodes.  I hope this helps.

Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: Jimmy on February 16, 2018, 12:24:56 am
Thank you, this is exactly the help I need  :praise70:
Title: Re: Pen Tool to selection
Post by: MaryLou on February 16, 2018, 01:32:26 pm
You are very welcome!!  I love vectors and always challenge myself to see how few nodes I can use to create something.  I learned this method by looking at how others made theirs.  That helped a lot!  What I don't like is coloring them after making them!  :look: